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Better Out is a radio documentary looking at the importance of 'talk therapy' to recovering problem gamblers. During the 2020 Covid-19 pandemic people in recovery, like everyone, were cut off from their social contacts. This has meant face to face therapies have been taken away leaving those in recovery to have to find new methods. The documentary case studies one particular podcast that was setup over lockdown which is helping the listeners, as well as the presenters during the recovery process.